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I have done Jacks Rake many times and think its probably a bit harder than a grade 1 scramble. The exposed bits are easier (note the 'ier' not 'y'). Comments like, "its just the Cambrian fells" are all too common. The lakes would be just one big sighn too. All rights reserved. A CALL has been made for 'discreet' signs to be put up at a Lake District landmark where two walkers plunged to their deaths within days of each other. The Scramble. Of course that respect for the dangers is healthy and you have to be careful children don't get too cocky... A. I have done Jacks Rake 3 times, each time in similar dry and good conditions. However, this is because they have been walking in the mountains since an early age. I'm not immortal and have a healthy sense of fear that tells me when I am about to do something stupid, nor am I arrogant - I know that I am a mere fly on a mountain, something inconsequential. Richard Roxburgh as Cleaver Greene and Keegan Joyce as Fuzz. With a little preparation, good attire and at least a one experienced person it is a fine ascent. I've climbed this before and it was scary. IMG 20170719 123554.png. Just out of interest, what kit were they using? I've had a quick look at my Scrambling books and every one has a definition of scrambling, explanation of the grading, notes on requirements for equipment/ability and warning of the dangers. There are many adults out there that shouldnt go out on the fells but they are not banned. This website and our partners also use cookies to provide authentication, advertising, and analysis of our traffic. It isn't a climbing frame in a play ground and is no place for an inexperienced adult to be leading inexperienced children. The only part that requires any climbing skills at all is at the very end. Have fun! A. If you are a parent taking children then you had better make sure you have the correct experience; also make sure you have a rope and the ability to bring your kids along safely should they feel they need it. A grade is only a guide and prior research is important as is flexibility in your plans and being prepared to give it a miss if it doesn't feel right on the day (even if you have driven several hundred miles to get to the route). Also, for those of you who say, oh it's a classic grade 1 straight forward scramble, just think back to your first time on it and whether you were led up there or picked your own route, because that changes things a lot. Out of seven of us on the trip three of us decided to walk up Pavey Ark via Jack's Rake (me being one) and the other four walked the [relatively] safer way to the top [Walk route map c281 The Langdale Pikes via North Rake from The New Dungeon Ghyll, Great Langdale]. Its a complex problem, but the seemingly endless rise in the number of mountain rescues and the already worrying death tole this year in the UK would suggest that the Outdoor world, in the UK, needs to start looking at how to address the problem. There are plenty of footpaths that I walked quite happily with my parents when I was about 10! It's an "easy rock climb" in an exposed place. Remember if you feel panicky or stuck, just take a break and a second to look at the rock and decide where the best foot and hand holds are - also look for worn or polished parts of the rock, this acts as a good indicator of where many others have walked before you and can help to find the best foot and hand placement. go4awalk.com and go4awalk.co.uk are registered trademarks of TMDH Limited. Talk to us    Shame really, as he was obviously in the right place at the right time with his 'Good job I had my transceiver...' (seriously; do people carry these things - obviously they must do !?). What people need to remember in Mountaineering and Hill Walking is that there is a risk of severe injury or death. A. Jack Rake Historical records and family trees related to Jack Rake. COLUMBIA – A memorial service for Jack L. Rake, 83, will be held at 1:00 p.m. on Monday, December 12, 2016 at Caughman-Harman Funeral Home, Lexington Chapel. go4awalk.com uses a 9 point grading system based on the length of the walk and the amount of ascent (and descent) encountered. Indeed many have fallen from such scrambles. There are many kids I would take into the mountains and happily guide them up a Grade 1 with hardly a second thought. News    The harder bits in the gully can all be bypassed by scrambling along the edge. Photograph: ABC So if you can't take children on a grade 1 scramble, where does that leave them with climbing? I always solo, I spend (on average) 2 days per week, every week, in the hills, in all conditions, all seasons. However when I chose to go up the second time, there genuinely were terrifying slip and die moments, no two ways about it, and no option to go back down at these points. The Rake began with a scree. Competitions    As for taking children up - it depends on the children. This is a very committing scramble and reversal is not an easy option. Updated 1538 GMT (2338 HKT) January 25, 2018 . Edit. Jacks Rake; Print; Pages: 1 2 [3] Author Topic: Jacks Rake (Read 8033 times) walking-books. People need to understand what scrambling is, the grading is on the technical difficulties, a grade one scramble can still have huge exposure and a fall will be fatal e.g. I made it about one third up, but was defeated by the conditions; a veritable stream running down the gulley, the very steep climbing up slippery and slimey rocks, getting very wet and the sheer terror! Join Facebook to connect with Jacks Rake and others you may know. He has notably golden eyes, darkly-tanned skin, and long spiky light-colored hair with exceptionally long bangs. They had one pair of crampons and one ice axe between them. I have heard the comment over the past few weeks that Jack's Rake should have a warning sticker on it however, standing at the bottom of it with a pair of eyes should be warning enough. ° How much it cost to download the 59 walks that climb all 214 Wainwrights? Walking in jeans in Welsh montains, without a map etc just gives the totally wrong impression. It is exposed in places, but not dangerously so! Lets not red tape the fells as we have the rest of the country. Its not as though you arent aware as you approach Jacks Rake from Stickle Barn that it may be dangerous, its a huge precipice that says i may be a bit tricky. I find that sometimes magazine articles are written by extremely macho blokes who underestimate the difficulty for ordinary or younger walkers. There's a lot of arrogance in some of these replies. Walk Search    I know and respect a few of you personally. It should be illegal to take kids up there. I generally have a massive amount of respect for you and your work, I know that many of you come from a solid background and have experience of the various mountain ranges around the world that make the British hills look puny. Were they idiots? (presumably the boot fairies planted it for amusement...). I would only feel comfortable on a route like this with people of similar abilities to my own. Was very nervous because, yes there are some bits where if you slip, you are in for a very long fall indeed! However I recently attempted to climb this route in winter conditions, the whole route was covered in snow & ice. More people will die driving to the hills than will die in the hills. Nobody was being 'irresponsible'; it was an unfortunate accident. Surely the answer depends on the child, I know kids who are FAR superior climbers to many adults; if anything their adult guide is more of a liability than they are. A. I just did Jack's Rake a couple of days ago. All involved would like to wish the young lad a speedy recovery and hope that his experience hasn't put him or any of his companions off the adventure of the hills. Now THAT is stupid and irresponsible but taking a 12 year old on a scramble or climb that is reasonably within their ability is not IMHO stupid or mad! I've been up Jack's Rake twice now, the first time with two others who I was leading up there, and I felt pretty safe the whole time and loved it. He wears a red bandana around his head along with an open red shirt, tan pants, and brown shoes. For taking children up, i would say that its absolute madness. Incidently Bob where on the Rake did he fall? Will Luigi survive, or will he join the creepypasta's victims? Only to someone puffed up with their own sense of self importance. Registered office 2 Spring Wells, Oakworth, Keighley, BD22 0QZ. Halls fell is also a grade 1 I believe and I found that to be damn right dangerous due to the slightly damp greasy shale (the kids are more lightweight than their portly father and had no such issue). A. Yesterday (20 June) Susannah Cox, 37, from Lancaster, also suffered a serious fall. I gave him a couple of "aim left" and "step on that and straighten your leg" type nuggets of advice, otherwise he pretty much led me up. Last month we got a chance to join in a climbing club doing Cam Crag (roped) which was excellent. It depends on the children, and on the adults. Yes, the actual climbing wasn't the most challenging it was the fact that you were constantly facing the fear of falling and it's virtually impossible to climb down unless you have the right equipment. It was my first grade 1 scramble and I was on my own. Scrambling in any form is effectively easy grade UN roped rock climbing however on grades 2 and above or even 1 in really poor conditions sometimes ropes are used to safeguard on steep ground. Kendal Mountain Rescue Team also helped in the rescue of the boy. In technical terms Jack's Rake is easy to protect. It is essential to bear in mind that scrambling is not hard hill walking, it's easy rock climbing, and more dangerous because it's usually done unroped. Find the perfect jacks rake stock photo. We were about half way up when the most experienced climber had difficulty in negotiating around a rock. Yes, they were in a bit of danger, at 800M cloud can descend fast, and if you dwell on that point and that point alone, then you could consider them a bit daft. There are also some places that are extremely exposed so a head for heights is certainly required. It is a bit like trying an 'Easy' climb; if you are a climber it my be easy but for a none climber it will be a terrifying, death defying experience. I did Scafel and Scafell Pike on Monday 9th going via Lords Rake, and on my return with the mist descending its amazing how many were still climbing without any equipment or proper footwear, no maps or compasses. The couple I met 800M up Ben Nevis dressed in trainers, her in leggings, him in jeans... in December. Fortunately he didn't and we completed the climb but I would never have done Jack's Rake had I known the risks. Have Fun! Product Reviews/Gear Tests    Jack's Rake. [4] As with Lord's Rake on Scafell Crag , the word 'rake' refers to a path across major precipices, originally used by climbers for access to rock climbs, but which can also be used by walkers. A woman was seen falling from Jack's Rake. Saying that - Jacks Rake is a firm favorite of mine, I have been back since (bricked it again!) I remember seeing two guys starting off along Crib-Goch at about 15:30, in the winter. So as advice, I'd say if at first you think the route ahead is not passable, and this forces you to the left to a more exposed route, look more carefully and see if you can make it work. Rant over - Anyone want a used soapbox!? I am 5' tall and find the holds big and easy and the rocks don't seem too slippy in rain. Should a child be on a Grade 1 scramble? Copyright © 2000-2021 TMDH Limited. Even in dry weather it can be damp and slippery. . Jack’s Rake is a popular Grade 1 scramble in the Lake District – but it’s by no means an easy proposition. There have been quite a few deaths recently on Jacks Rake of inexperienced walkers. He also possesses multiple battle scars from his past battles scattered across his body. Bear Gryls is another example of poor outdoor education. When I had made the stiff climb up Stickle Ghyll and reached the tarn on that occasion I looked at the rake for the first time and was absolutely petrified. The guidebooks [that I have seen] are correct! Looking through a certain outdoor magazine's walk guides, we read that Jack's Rake was a perfect scramble for a beginner, and that we should not be put off by it's apparent difficulty because it was, (to paraphrase) after a difficult start, easy peasy. If any. A. Whilst the climbing further up is easier it does feel more exposed. I took the challenge of doing Striding Edge during a gale, this was entirely at my own risk, but I was confident that I could do it (and with over 20 years of ridge walking / scrambling and climbing behind me, I have a sense of my own limitations / risk). We did Go Ape in the morning and then we climbed Pavey Ark [Langdale Pikes] in the afternoon. It’s of an unusual type in being a slanting route across a big crag – where the route itself isn’t too tricky in terms of moves but the general seriousness of the situation is considerable. 8 inexperienced people all on a confined ledge has resulted in a near fatality and only hope his injuries arent life changing. I've sat in pubs listening to "experts" talking total codsh*t, each tale inflating their ego more than the last. Kids who can skip around 5a roped on the climbing wall may react differently when they are faced with serious exposure for the first time unroped - it's a completely different ball game mentally, and it is pure selfishness not to be properly prepared for them. Man airlifted to … and Halls Fell Ridge is a bit less severe in my opinion. See Grades for more details. How much it cost to download the 59 walks that climb all 214 Wainwrights? Conditions the route taken updated our privacy policy because of the boy was seriously when. 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